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Recommend a fogbugz system

I intend to buy a cheap machine that will be dedicated to running fogbugz. I need it to be small and out of the way and I would prefer no keyboard and monitor (I will admin it via VNC or one of its clones).

I don't care what the machine is, be it a PC, or a mac, Windows or linux etc. It just has to work.

For example, a Mac Mini with fogbugz looks like a good option (small, good value etc), but I have heard that you can not VNC in unless a monitor is connected, as the mac will not start up any of the gui stuff unless a monitor is connected to the machine.
A cheap PC from dell ends up similar in price by the time you get XP Pro etc, but its a lot bigger.

Anyway, how cheap, or how small do you think it would be possible to create a dedicated fogbugz server, and what are you using?
Rik Send private email
Tuesday, January 24, 2006
In regards to a PC, you can always go Mini-ITX format, which is almost as small as a Mac-Mini.
Wiley Cox Send private email
Tuesday, January 24, 2006
I'm using a Mac mini myself, works fine.

Not sure that you've heard right about not being able to use it headless, I've just tried it and it works fine. Although I am using Mac OS X Sever, but I don't think that's got anything to do with it, I'm pretty sure I ran plain old Mac OS X headless at one stage. Normally I use a KVM.

VNC is built into Mac OS X too, in both client and server versions.
Ian M. Jones (CaseDetective) Send private email
Tuesday, January 24, 2006
I'd vote for a windows box.  Any old windows box will do.
Michael H. Pryor Send private email
Tuesday, January 24, 2006
Since you wrote it, I have to pay attention... :-)

I guess I will try and find a small windows box for it to live on then - I'm in more familiar territory with Windows anyway.

Thanks for all the suggestions.
Rik Send private email
Wednesday, January 25, 2006
Please post back and let us know what you end up getting. I'm looking for something small and cheap, too, to run FogBugz in a closet.
Sherman Uitzetter Send private email
Thursday, January 26, 2006
That's not to say the mac minis aren't good.  We have two here. They are fun because they are little boxes, but they are a bit underpowered for my taste.  I think I would rather sacrifice a little physical space for a faster machine (that would be much cheaper)
Michael H. Pryor Send private email
Thursday, January 26, 2006
To be honest I am having a hard time finding a small PC that works out cheaper than a mac mini. They are all either too expensive or too much hassle (buy all the bits and assemble yourself, which I am happy to do, but don't really have the time to spend).

I can find plenty of big standard PC boxes for much cheapness, but I have decided it will be too much space.

I expect I will end up with the mac mini because...
- its small, neat and cute
- it will give me a mac to test the web site on and make sure it looks ok
- I don't have to spend weeks making sure I have the right sort of ram etc. I just click "Buy Now".

Performance isn't really an issue. All it will be doing is hosting fogbugz, which will have 1 or 2 people accessing it. I'll let you know how it goes - might be a couple of weeks though as I am off on a trip for the next week...
Rik Send private email
Thursday, January 26, 2006
I thought about making FogBugz appliances once.  I even got a custom mac mini which has the Fog Creek logo on it.

But the expense of all the shipping and dealing with physical goods meant that the premium we would charge probably would turn people away, making my efforts fruitless.

The mac mini looks cool though with the Fog Creek logo on it.
Michael H. Pryor Send private email
Thursday, January 26, 2006

You need to get yourself a blog, so that you can put up pictures of that Mac mini and talk about the other cool ideas you have and stuff you play with.

It would be a great place to give out FogBugz tips 'n' tricks too.

Either that, or send me a picture of the Mac mini and I'll post it on my blog. I'm sure there's plenty of people that would like to see it, and maybe get the back-story too?
Ian M. Jones (CaseDetective) Send private email
Friday, January 27, 2006

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