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EBS - combining % time on FB with "leave the clock running"


I'm trying to get to grips with EBS, and I understand the concept of being consistent in our time tracking methods. What I don't understand is how that ties in with the option to set the % time working on FB cases.

Suppose I have set the % time to be 50%, and I then leave the clock running on a case all day. Does FB treat that as me having worked 1 day or 0.5 days?

Akash Chopra Send private email
Friday, December 5, 2008
Hi Akash-

FogBugz thinks you have worked 1 day in that case. This is actually how I prefer to use EBS -- I just keep my % time set to 100 and then estimate all cases for how long I think they'll take WITH interruptions and other stuff that I haven't included in schedule items. Then I just leave the clock running. So my estimate history occasionally gets a really nasty 30 minute estimate with a 3 hour completion time, but EBS has gotten very good at giving me good overall projections and I don't have to micromanage.

Doesn't work for everyone, but that's my 2 cents.

If you want to use % time, then just make sure you turn off the clock when you're not working on FogBugz stuff. Set Working On -> Nothing.

Good luck with EBS!
Brett Kiefer Send private email
Tuesday, December 9, 2008
Thanks Brett,

We've already agreed to estimate effort rather than elapsed time, and to keep the clock running over interruptions. We find it hard to guess how much we'll be interrupted (leave that up to EBS), and hard to remember to start/stop the timer :)

So I guess that means we should leave the % time at 100%, and make sure that we track everything in we do in FB?

Tuesday, December 9, 2008
Hi Akash-

Yes, that should work great - please post or send us an email after a few weeks and tell us how it's going, if you can, and tell us how we can make EBS better. We're working on it.

The great thing about working like you're talking about is that it should take the ego out of estimates. I estimated an hour, it took 5 hours. Does that mean I'm a bad estimator? Well, maybe, but maybe I just got interrupted by a critical issue. In any case, it doesn't matter - just keep on truckin' and trust that both you and EBS will get better and better at figuring out how long things are going to take.

Thanks, and good luck with your project!
Brett Kiefer Send private email
Tuesday, December 9, 2008
Thanks Brett - that has cleared things up. Will let you know how we get on.

Akash Chopra Send private email
Tuesday, December 9, 2008

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