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Incorrect "You do not have any historical estimates" message

Having just got 6.0 up and working this morning, let me say congratulations. It looks good so far.

After that, I find myself a bit baffled by the "You do not have any historical estimates" message on the Estimate History report. I have plenty of resolved cases for which I entered an initial estimate and kept track of the actual time that pre-date FogBugz 6.0. To be included in this report, do these data have to enter the system using some special 6.0 feature or data flow?

Thanks for the new version and the quality tech support to get it up and running.

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Mmmm, now the s#i7 sandwhich is complete.
flipdoubt Send private email
Friday, September 14, 2007
 
 
Wait until tomorrow.  A nightly process has to run ;)
Michael H. Pryor Send private email
Friday, September 14, 2007
 
 
D'oh! Thanks. Maybe the UI could be better documented to say the report only gets generated once every 24 hours. Otherwise, someone might expect to see immediate changes but wind up disappointed with "today's" results.
flipdoubt Send private email
Friday, September 14, 2007
 
 
I have at least one case missing from my estimation history: closed the previous day. There are two things different about it (that shouldn't make any difference):

- it was around 5 hours long, when the other cases on the list are around 1 hour long (maybe outliers are excluded?

- After closing I re-opened and and closed it.. not editing anything

Will see if I can work out what is going on...
PDF Send private email
Friday, September 14, 2007
 
 
Another day has passed, and I'm still not seeing anything on the estimate history report.
flipdoubt
Saturday, September 15, 2007
 
 
Still no estimate history reports.

Is this nightly process run as part of the maintenance service? I've check, and the maintenance service appears to be running properly.

Does FogBugz use Reporting Services to generate this report? The only oddities I can find in the server's event log is several entries that read as follows:

.NET Runtime Optimization Service (clr_optimization_v2.0.50727_32) - Failed to compile: Microsoft.ReportingServices.QueryDesigners, Version=9.0.242.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=89845dcd8080cc91 . Error code = 0x80070002
flipdoubt Send private email
Sunday, September 16, 2007
 
 
No, it doesn't use Microsoft Reporting Services.  I'll have to ask Brett tomorrow if he has any ideas...
Michael H. Pryor Send private email
Sunday, September 16, 2007
 
 
Hi Folks-
I think y'all are talking about two different reports. Michael is talking about the "Ship Date Over Time" report, which indeed is filled in by an overnight process, and you're talking about the Estimate History graph. And your initial hunch was correct -- FogBugz disregards any estimate history from cases prior to FogBugz 6.0. When we looked at our own estimate/actual data, we found lots of data points that we wanted to throw out (they were mostly symptomatic of the pre-EBS estimate/actual system). We didn't want to make people sort through and clean their old data in order to get good EBS results, so it seemed simplest for all parties to only take post-EBS data points into account.
Thanks!
Brett
Brett Kiefer Send private email
Monday, September 17, 2007
 
 
Ah! That is a load off my mind.

Do I have to use the time sheet or elapsed timer when entering these data or can I continue fill in the elapsed time by hand? Not that I don't want to use the timer, I'm just wondering because I'm still getting the following message on the "My Estimate History" report, even after I've opened and resolved cases using 6.0.

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You do not have any historical estimates.
For the time being, FogBugz will use a generic probability distribution to calculate your ship date reports.
 
In order to be considered a historical estimate for a user, a case must be estimated by that user, have time charged against it, and then be resolved and closed. The resolution must be "Completed", "Fixed", "Implemented", or "Responded."
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Do I need to have a certain amount of historical data before I get my first report? I'm just trying to see what each page does. Does the "My estimation history" page show me anything especially interesting, like whether I tend to over or underestimate?
flipdoubt Send private email
Monday, September 17, 2007
 
 
Hi-
No, you don't need to use the timesheet, you can enter the elapsed time by hand, too. Have you closed those cases? EBS doesn't count them until they're closed.
The report will indeed show you where you have over- and under-estimated cases.
Thanks!
Brett
Brett Kiefer Send private email
Monday, September 17, 2007
 
 
Nope. I haven't closed anything since upgrading to 6, just resolved cases. Since no one "signs off" on my fixes, I don't usually wait until a version is released before I close its cases.

Thanks for your help.
flipdoubt Send private email
Monday, September 17, 2007
 
 
. . . and thank you -- all of that is good to know as we try to refine the EBS design and docs.
Thanks!
Brett
Brett Kiefer Send private email
Monday, September 17, 2007
 
 

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